Thrive: The Failure

Several months ago a conspiracy theory laden movie called "Thrive" premiered on the internet. One of the biggest claims that they made was that there were these designs for machines that could generate unlimited amounts of energy out of nothing. Basically, these were free energy machines. A week after the premier of this movie, I decided to send the website an email concerning these so called free energy machines. What I asked them for was blue prints and instructions on how to build one of these machines, what type of materials I should use to build such a machine, and a video of one being built until it's fully functional.

I assumed that because the free energy device, and the conspiracy theory that a small group of individuals were basically controlling the world and trying to suppress such technology, that they would be more then happy to show someone, like myself, how to build such a device.

The only email I ever received from them, so far, was an automated message basically telling me how to download the movie, and links to help promote the movie.

Apparently to the makers of this movie, it's more important to promote the movie it self, and the conspiracy theories within it, rather then to provide the actual proof that one of the devices it promotes, can be built.

On this part, and on so many others, Thrive has failed.

Most of the conspiracy theories and pseudo-sciences in this movie has either been debunked a long time ago, and even at the very best, are logically flawed, and with no real evidence what so ever to support the conspiracy theories and pseudo-science that is promoted in the film. In fact, several people who were interviewed in the film are now distancing themselves from the movie, and even denouncing it and it's creator, Foster Gamble, because of the conspiracy theories and pseudo-science that was promoted in the movie, and that they were mis-lead about what the film was truly about.

The movie also seems to have failed in the conspiracy theorist world as well. There isn't much talked about much among conspiracy theorist circles, unless they have very similar conspiracy theory beliefs to the Thrive movement itself. In fact some conspiracy theorists even believe that it's a dis-information movie. I've actually seen one such accusation myself from a member of the Zeitgeist movement, who accused it of being a dis-information movie created by the government and Scientology...

I speculate the reason why some conspiracy theorists believe this is a dis-information movie is because not only of some of the weird stuff it promotes, and sometimes even weirder people it attracts, but also because Foster Gamble was once an heir to Procter & Gamble, and because of this, some conspiracy theorists are just going to naturally believe that it must be a dis-information movie created by someone involved in a multi-national corporation.

It should also be noted that many people, both skeptics and supporters, see many similarities between Zeitgeist and Thrive, in that they both promote conspiracy theories, that they promote the belief that a group of elites are controlling the world through the banking system, that advanced technology will solve the world's ills, and that we must change our way of thinking. The only real differences between the two are that Zeitgeist doesn't promote UFO conspiracy theories, and Thrive doesn't promote Christ myth conspiracy theories.

Also, many supporters of Thrive are, or were, members of the Zeitgeist movement. Some skeptics and debunkers have even referred to Thrive as "Zeitgeist 2.0".

The fact remains is that Thrive has not made any real impact anywhere. In fact, if it wasn't for a couple of fellow skeptics and debunkers, who created the Thrive Debunked blog, I would never have even heard of Thrive in the first place, because there just aren't that many people talking about it, besides maybe a few people who to seriously believe in some pretty weird stuff.

Thrive: The Debunking

Last week I saw a trailer for a new documentary called "Thrive: What on Earth will it take" by Foster Gamble .

The trailer starts out fine at first, but within 30 seconds it goes from asking a perfectly legitimate question of whether or not humans can thrive, to pseudo-science, and eventually conspiracy theories.

First, they talk about some secret "code" and "hidden" designs in ancient art work concerning the torus, and how it keeps showing up in so many ancient sites around the world.

This of course means nothing other then different cultures thousands of years ago interacted with each, picking up the pattern from one another, and reproducing it. It has nothing to do with some secret ancient codes (not exactly a secret either since it's right out in public).

While this part raised a red flag to me, I wasn't ready to outright to dismiss it as being nothing more then BS.

Then goes into UFOs, and that the government is covering up the truth about them, and that they have crashed alien space craft.

This raised a few more red flags for me, as that is nothing more then an unproven and probably untrue conspiracy theory, and I felt it was going way off of what I thought this documentary was going to be about.

But again, I was not about to dismiss this documentary as being nothing more then BS.

Then they talked about crop circles being communications from aliens.

This is when I dismissed this documentary as being nothing but BS.

Crop circles, even the very complex ones, are in fact man made. There are multiple websites and videos showing how they can be made in only a few hours, using some rope and a 2x4.

Then they go into where they claim that machines can be built, using the torus design, that can produce unlimited energy.

I won't actually outright say is impossible, but most scientists in the field of physics agree that a machine that could produce unlimited energy (no matter what the design is) is so highly improbable that it is considered to be outright impossible to build.

Then it goes down hill from there.

They then begin making claims that this technology is being suppressed (along with knowledge about UFOs) by large corporations (banks, oil, energy, pharmaceutics) and the government (which is implied is controlled by large corporations) and implies that these corporations are responsible for all the troubles in the world today.

And of course they tell you to "connect the dots", something that many conspiracy theorists do in order to try to prove their conspiracy theories when they have a lack of real evidence (which is almost always).

In my personal opinion, you should not waste your time, or money, on this documentary, but if you do actually wish to see what I am actually talking, here is a link the trailer to the movie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OibqdwHyZxk

And if you wish to read a much more in-depth debunking of this documentary, please click on the link below:

http://thrivedebunked.wordpress.com/